21 thoughts on “N-Word and Upward

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    • I’m sorry, I just don’t accept the “he’s old, he’s from another era” excuse. Not anymore. Sherfiff Copeland is 82, which means he was in his ’30s when this country was going through a massive struggle for Civil Rights. He would have noticed.

      The word he used has been universally recognized as a term of virulent racism for the entirety of this man’s life. He knows it’s racist. He’s not confused.

      I understand that language changes, and sometimes older people have a hard time keeping up. It would be one thing if he couldn’t tell the difference between “colored person” and “person of color” for example. This is a different case.

      Calling the black president a nigger, then doubling down on it when confronted, that’s just racist. It’s not “clueless old guy who doesn’t know any better.” He knows better and doesn’t care.

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        • Casual setting, yes. But it was public enough that people heard him. He’s supposed to be an authority figure. He’s an officer of the law. People are correct to be angered that someone who’s supposed to be impartial and fair would have such deeply-held biases.

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          • Yes. People are correct to be angered. And concerned. As I said, there should be a close examination of this man’s performance in his office. If it is found that he has implemented discriminatory practices, then yes, he should no longer hold the office he now does. Note carefully that I am not saying his racism is okay, or should be excused and ignored.

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          • Yeah, Bronc, I’ve always found that to be the most asinine argument. If you say you’re tolerant, you have to tolerate racists!

            Bullshit. I mean, I could say the same thing about anything. If you say you’re tolerant, you have to tolerate murderers! Or rapists! Or bank robbers!

            There are plenty of things that nobody should tolerate. Hatred towards a group of people for merely existing is one of those things.

            Tolerance is only meant to be applied to things that don’t cause harm to others.

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        • I was with you and thinking you sounded like an open-minded, accepting, flexible dude. I have roots in the deep south going back to the most horrible times but was raised in California. You gotta give a lot of slack sometimes and walk away. I understood you, that it was hard to argue with until, “Get over yourself.”

          You’re giving some crotchety, old racist law-enforcer more benefit of the doubt than our venerable host.

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    • “I abhor racism, but am very much on board for personal freedom – even for things I don’t like. We are creating a world where even our private conversations are open game for these events . . . I don’t like it, but I’m not comfortable tearing down a lifetime of work based on something that wasn’t meant for my ear to begin with.”

      Freedom of speech means he can say it. I will fight for that freedom, even for people to say things that I personally find abhorrent.

      That does not mean, however, that anyone is guaranteed that their free speech to be consequence free.

      We CANNOT tolerate racism among elected officials – especially a police commissioner! – even in their time off. Racists don’t just stop being racist when they’re at work. We don’t need someone like that in a position with that much power to discriminate.

      And I don’t need to know him to know that he’s racist. A white person who refers to a black person using that kind of hateful slur is automatically a racist, end of story.

      BTW, I’m seeing from your examples that you’re one of those people who believes that reverse racism is a thing. That demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding about what racism actually involves. Like to the point that I’m not even going to bother trying to explain it to you.

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    • Okay, I’ll give you my take on reverse racism.

      When you have a group of people who have been systematically dehumanized, deprived of basic rights, and continue to suffer the long-term (over many generations) effects of discrimination against themselves and their ancestors, and they make negative comments against the ethnic group that as a whole oppressed them, you CANNOT put that in the same category as what the oppressors did. It isn’t even close to the same thing.

      Having someone make fun of your musical choices or surprised at your abilities because you’re a white person is so un-fucking-comparable to suffering true racism that saying so ventures into truly offensive territory. If you haven’t spent your life fearing for your safety, being turned down for jobs, having trouble finding decent housing, being pushed aside and treated as insignificant or less than human strictly because of your race, then you have NOT experienced racism.

      At most, you’ve experienced prejudice and dickishness. And I’m even willing to overlook dickishness if it’s backlash against the so-much-worse shit that they’ve lived with. I’m not saying that makes it okay, but comparing that to racism is like comparing being bumped into on the street with being thrown off a bridge.

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    • As for the cove thing . . .

      It’s not that he can’t have *a* cove named after him. He just can’t have *that* cove. The objection to the name is coming from the Washoe Tribe, whose ancestral homeland it’s on.

      Their feelings about it take precedence over people who want to honor someone who’s not even living, and who can be – and is – honored in a zillion other ways.

      Respecting their wishes about something like this, which has zero impact on any of the rest of us, is the very least we can do.

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  3. Oldness McJowels is indeed free to speak his mind, per the First Amendment.

    He just ain’t free to keep his taxpayer-funded job as a peace officer when he shoots off at the mouth. He’s full of hate and spite and I have no doubt what will happen when he or one of the officers under him decide to pull over “a car full’a them niggers”.

    The best thing about the future is that he’s not gonna be in it.

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